This is torture merely as a means to gather important information about insurgents. It's routine torture. Over a third of U.S. soldiers, taking the lead from their pro-torture commander-in-chief, see nothing wrong with this, even in a war clearly under Geneva guidelines. Two-thirds won't report it. One in ten say they have abused Iraqi civilians just for the hell of it.-Andrew Sullivan, in a must read article on the war in Iraq.
Early during the Iraq war, I internally sneered at the naivette of pacifism. I still think absolute pacificsm is a mistake. However, I have come to see that there are many good reasons for thinking war must be a measure of absolute last resort, among them that no matter how noble the cause, war seems to have a proven ability to bring out the worst in human nature. Or, arguably, it meerly brings out the average in human nature, removing the thin restraints that keep people in modern liberal democratic states from acting the way most people have acted throughout history.
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Atheists are the Carrion lovers of society....
One basic principle about carrion lovers is that the unclean is clean to them.
While traveling on a certain highway the other day, I saw two DOGS consuming the remains of a well-rotted deer caucus.
Now dogs have a very keen sense of smell. But the stench of well rotted carrion doesn’t bother them.
Dogs and all carrion consumers aptly typify atheists and all non believers in God. They are the carrion lovers of the world. The unclean is clean to them. They are not repelled by any of the moral carrion in the world. They are the dogs, buzzards, possums and maggots of the world. They cannot smell the foul stench of pornography, homosexuality, pedophilia, bestiality, abortion or sin of any type, but feel it is their right to practice such.
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Hey Anonymous, there are some guys in white coats looking for you.
Funny, I thought it was Fundie Christians who claim that neutral stuff was rotten with no basis.
I'm reminded of someone who claimed that anyone who was against slavery was a God-hater, after all, slavery is morally obligatory or some such crap. Was fitting, since religion was among the most common justifications for slavery and resistance to those godless abolitionists.
Nowadays, most Christians I've encountered (fundies) seem to have absolutely no problem with pointless, everlasting torture (Hell). Many of them seem downright gleeful about other people experiencing it. In other words, lots of Christians out there think that torture is a good, morally obligatory thing.
Oh, and they also try to spin, spin, spin away the disgusting, immoral endorsements for slavery in the Bible, rather than come out and say the obvious: The Bible is immoral for endorsing slavery.
Same thing with Biblical genocide and murder, especially when it's performed by their deity.
Oh, and as for pedophilia: I'm not aware of any atheist who's okay with that, and I visit a lot of atheist blogs. When the atheists I know do post about pedophilia, it's usually disgust at Christian leaders and role models being caught doing it. Actions speak louder than words.
So, bottom line: Fundie Christians can't detect the stench of torture, slavery, murder, genocide, and other crimes. They can only detect the disapproval of people who believe in humanist values (including the less insane Christians), and thus try to spin their indifference out of public perception.
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